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4/27/2005 9:00 AM
 
Excuese me ,I need your help. I'm working in refrigeration plant ,some thing about materail grade confuse me.2 range in my process,one is hot ,one is cold - hot process is 50 - 135 degree celcius - cold process is 0 - -50 degree celcuis I have 3 question 1. In hot process. Can I use API 5L Grade B 2. In cold process. Can I use A333 3. A333 is suitable in Low temperature only or can use in high temperature too. 4. Can I separate like this,A333 for cold process and API 5L for hot process. 5. Please show temperature range that suitable for use A333 Thank You Very Much Sakchai Saehung
 
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4/28/2005 9:00 AM
 
Without knowing the purposes for your application I can say that API 5L Gr B can be used at temperatures above 0ºC up to 200ºC. If your process work is in the brittle zone bellow 0ºC down to –50ºC you should use ASTM A333 Gr 3 with a minimum impact test temperature of –101ºC. A 333 Gr B can be used in services bellow 0ºC down to 100ºC. Luis Marques
 
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4/29/2005 9:00 AM
 
sak, The best source of information about allowable temperature ranges for various piping materials is the ASME Power and Chemical process piping codes........ASME B31.1 and B31.3 API 5L Grade B is carbon steel material and, as I recall, has a temperature range similar to A53/A106 grade B ( -20F to +750F) A333 Grade B has a larger acceptable range ( as i recall... to -50F....but you should check the code). A333, of course, is a little more expensive. Your low temperature service....only to 0 degrees C may allow either material. However, piping system design is not just material selection......many other factors must be included to achieve a well engineered piping system. What liquid is being transported and what is the pressure range required ??? MJC
 
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4/29/2005 9:00 AM
 
Sak i agree with MJC on this. The fact that the piping designer is suggesting A 333 - may be on considerations of sudden impact load considerations at sub zero temperature. For such unforeseen impact load, A 333 would be better than A 53 or A 106 Grades. Trust this is of help to you C.V.Srinivasan Nishi Engineers Pvt Ltd India April 29 E-mail: nishi@hathway.com >sak, > >The best source of information about allowable temperature >ranges for various piping materials is the ASME Power and >Chemical process piping codes........ASME B31.1 and B31.3 > >API 5L Grade B is carbon steel material and, as I recall, >has a temperature range similar to A53/A106 grade B ( -20F >to +750F) > >A333 Grade B has a larger acceptable range ( as i recall... >to -50F....but you should check the code). A333, of course, >is a little more expensive. > >Your low temperature service....only to 0 degrees C may >allow either material. > >However, piping system design is not just material >selection......many other factors must be included to >achieve a well engineered piping system. > >What liquid is being transported and what is the pressure >range required ??? > > >MJC
 
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