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8/25/2008 9:00 AM
 
The subject issue is global. Pl. share any experience of any inhibitor or programme dosing which could lower down the dew point of water suitably above Ammonium Chloride salt deposition max. temperature . Pl. share regards
 
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9/3/2008 9:00 AM
 
On top of overhead CDU as pH increases toward the neutral region the concentration of bisulphide ion in solution increases. It has been demonstrated by several investigators that there is a sharp increase to the rate of corrosion in the region of pH 6.8 to 7.3. The sharp increase in corrosion rate is apparently the result of faster reduction of bisulphide ions both from the scale lattice and solution. As the scale lattice is altered FeS is released, exposing unreacted iron, and the FeS enters the water phase. In a crude unit this phenomena is recognized as black water. The dissociation of H2S in HS- and S++ is minimum at 5 pH. A good and proper water wash would probably be the key to minimize corrosion problems on overhead distillation units. The quality of water wash is very important. In our crude unit we use continuous water washing of the overhead air coolers. The water from the dessalters is refluxed through a feed water drum to the inlet nozzles of air coolers header boxes. When water is saturated and chloride contents on overhead drum are above 50 PPM we empty the feed water drum and we add make up water. The optimum water wash should be with demineralised but this is not economic. The standard wash water quality normally is as fallows: Ph = 5.5-7.5 Total hardness- < or = 50PPM Total HCO3- and CO3- content < or = 50PPM Ammonium hydrosulphide (NH4HS) < or = 100PPM Chloride < or = 2000PPM Sulphate < or = 200PPM Oxygen < or = 1PPM Some years ago because of ammonium chloride under deposit corrosion and difficulties in stabilizing pH we give up injecting liquid NH3, we start controlling Ph with a neutralize inhibitor up stream overhead air coolers. On overhead line of the column we have a corrosion inhibitor injection just down stream where dew point occurs. Down stream of dessalters we have a caustic injection to neutralize the chlorides. This caustic injection should be as much as possible stequiometric, we should inject caustic OHNA in the same proportion of the salts we have at dessalters outlet. The caustic injection is to form sodium chloride salts at dessalters outlet and not to control PH. The caustic limit injection of 12 PPM of OHNA at dessalters outlet is to avoid caustic embritllement downstream dessalters equipment minimizing as much as possible coking formation at crude heaters. The caustic injection should be performed through a proper quill. From times to times is important to check quill condition. Good dessalters performance is also a good way to control crude overhead corrosion. For more on this subject please contact Baker Hughes or Nalco/Exxon they will assess you on the best way how to control topping corrosion. Regards Luis marques
 
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9/22/2008 9:00 AM
 
Hi Luis and Debashis, 'Hope you remember me. Yesterday, a case of CDU overhead corrosion was referred to me. The CDU handles Arab Mix as well as Nigerian crudes. The exchangers in question are Airfin cooler, with CS finned tubes. The salient observations are : There is Hydrogen blistering in one of the partition plates. Also some black hard deposits on outlet tubes.. and some yellow deposits too (just looks like Sulfur !!!). The partition plates has multi-layered thick loose scaling. Could you share your experiences about any similar cases ? Also what is the possible mode of reaction ? Do you suspect any Cyanide in the system or something similar to suppress H2 evolution on surface ? Looking forward to replies. regards chakra
 
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