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10/28/2005 9:00 AM
 
I am looking for the "Industry Best Practice" with regards to an Inspection Stratergy to detect tube degradation due to 'creep damage' The Reformer is a Foster Wheeler design and is used in Hydrogen production. The heater has been in service for 9years with and unusually high number of shutdown-startup cycles, as much as 15 in the first year of operation. We did a H-Scan inspection 4 years ago when tubes were still categorised as either Grade 1,2 or 3. I am looking for the best recommended inspection method. Ian Snr. Plt. Inspector Trinidad.
 
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10/28/2005 9:00 AM
 
Ian Haynes "Industry best practice" for Reformer tube insepction is as follows: 1. Ultrasonic Through Wall transmission - sender and receiver probes - with a probe mounting holder suiting to the configuration of tube OD/I.D (i.e., wall thickness of tube being scanned). The key to success of UT scan prediction and confidence level in grading tube severity is in probe holder design to get maximum information from mid-wall to inner to outer fissures. Usually the innmer most - 3 mm and outer most 3 mm outer most wall thickness cannot be accurately scanned due to UT wave scatter in a centri-cast HP tube. Mid wall creep fissures - as mid wall fissures - due to hoop stress primarily - start from centre of wall thickness and proopagates from mid-wall to inner wall or outer wall or both depending on the firing the tube had seen over 9 years, the number of upset start ups and shut-downs the reformer furnace had seen in 9 years time (in your case). If short time flame impingement had occurred that would drastically reduce the tube life. 2. Based on the U.T Scan of the full length of tubes on the two fired sides of the tubes - with probe design design holder designed to suit the OD/ID + the pitch distance between the tubes - tube gradation is done based on the severity (classificiation of severity. This is based on the mid-wall to inner or outer creep fissure propogation. Usually there are seven grades of classification of severity from UT Scan fissure wall detection. 3. The severely classified tubes are then radiographed at select locations in the tubes where severity of creep fissures are higher. 3. Radiographic confimration of creep fissures will inform the grading for replacement. For Butt welds of tubes - only RT is the most accepted method by industry standard for reformer tube to confirm creep voids and creep fissures. Incidentally butt welds are rated at 80% of tube life if the tubes had been operated within design temperature conditions. 4. Some reformer furnace inspection companies do a magenetic permeability scan also along the full length of the tubes and also on welds. Magnetic permeability test is a successful method for pyrolytic furnaces in ethylene cracker but not good for hydrogen, steam-napatha, gas fired reformer tubes. 5. Some inspection companies and reformer operators do a video or optical scan of the inside surface from oxidation or bore carburization from inside of the tube. This requires complete empty of catalyst from tubes. 6. Essentially, industry practice today is UT through Scan (double probe scan) for mid wall fissures, grade the severity by UT scan, confirmatory RT of both tube and weld creep fissrues. This normally gives 90-95% level confidence to retire tubes with advanced creep fissures and plan for selective replacement. 7. For a hydrogen furnace - Foster Wheeler design - if the HP N 6 tubes had been fired within design conditions and with number of cyclic shut down/start ups have not been too drastic - you could expect good detection of mid-wall to inner or outer creep fissures. Both UT and RT scan of welds and tubes will give you enough information and confidence from retirement or select replacement and also for future inspection of the reformer furnace tubes. Trust this is of help to you C.V.Srinivasan Nishi Engineers Pvt Ltd India Oct 30,2005 E-mail:nishi@vsnl.com >I am looking for the "Industry Best Practice" with regards >to an Inspection Stratergy to detect tube >degradation due to 'creep damage' >The Reformer is a Foster Wheeler design and is used in >Hydrogen production. The heater has been in service for >9years with and unusually high number of shutdown-startup >cycles, as much as 15 in the first year of operation. >We did a H-Scan inspection 4 years ago when tubes were still >categorised as either Grade 1,2 or 3. >I am looking for the best recommended inspection method. > >Ian >Snr. Plt. Inspector >Trinidad.
 
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10/31/2005 9:00 AM
 
Further to Mr. Srinivasan's Expert recommendatios :-- (7) In-situ Metallographic survey can be done at most damage prone exposed areasfor assessment of creep void population and coalescense. (8) You can also measure diametric and axial creep by measuring tube OD and weld-to-weld distance and comparing with the last ones. regards DM Sr. Inspection Engineer HPL Mob-94342 36119
 
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11/3/2005 9:00 AM
 
In complement to other suggestions given you may consider Ultrasonic attenuation, eddy current, ultrasonic thickness, and diametrical measurement (UT Scan). Another reliable method for determining creep damage appears to be x-rays. X-ray will show the voids forming in the HK-40 that lead to creep damage. Regards Luis Marques
 
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11/3/2005 9:00 AM
 
Ian/ Debasis / Luis In-situ Metallography : is mostly corroborative and totally confirmative from creep voids and creep fissures. Creep voids are inevitable in reformer tube materials from 20,000 hr service time. Question what Ian asked is: What are the industry standards / practices from evaluation of creep related damages in reformer tubes after problonged exposure at 850-950 deg centirgrade and for retirement and replacement of tubes in time. A detection by in-situ metallography of creep fissures will more or less indicate close to retirement or virtual failure in the next couple of thousand hours of service run. Radiography (X-rays) is a confirmative tool available for this. Calipering of tubes - OD - is one of the oldest (ICI- UK practice) for retiring tubes when UT attenuation, RT (Radoigraphy or X-rays) is adopted. In fact some manufactured tubes have machined locations in each tube length for constant monitoring of tube OD during every shut-down. There is no guarantee the particular location where machined surface is available is the location where tube OD is larger. From reliability of prediction for tube retirement, industry standard as of today is to perform : UT attenuation (UT scan - twin probe technique) using auto-crawler or manual scan of the entire length of the tube. Grade the severity and carry out radiography of locations with tubes with graded high severity (creep fisures already observed in UT attenutation scan of each tube full length). In-situ metallography of such local high severity graded creep fissure spots will no doubt help to further confirm (if creep fissures are in advanced stages and to know the morphology of other creep related damages - like nitridiing, bore carburization / oxidation which UT scan and RT cannot detect). One should remember that every inspection company or each client is not equipped with correct interpretation of metallurgical changes - as reformer tube metallurgy after 40,000-100,000 hr service life is quite complicated in nature. It is not simple creep voids related damages. This requires special diagnostic and evaluation capability even by a seasoned and experienced metallurgist (this is not text book metallurgy - one can practice). From industry standard practice - as prevailing today- UT attenuation and radiography will give good confidence to any user or any sound interpretative qualitative inspection company who perform the scan of aged reformer tube materials - whether hydrogen, methanol, steam-naphtha , gas based ammonia plant user. For Luis's information: X-ray scanning is not done in a closed pitch distance reformer tube. Only portable Radiography with Ir. 192 source is practical for this. That is what is done as industry standard. Trust this is of help to you C.V.Srinivasan Nishi Engineers Pvt Ltd India Nov 4,2005 E-mail:nishi@vsnl.com >In complement to other suggestions given you may consider >Ultrasonic attenuation, eddy current, ultrasonic thickness, >and diametrical measurement (UT Scan). >Another reliable method for determining creep damage appears >to be x-rays. X-ray will show the voids forming in the HK-40 >that lead to creep damage. > >Regards > >Luis Marques
 
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